The Sonder Podcast with Kirsten Haglund

That moment you realize each random passerby is living a life as crazy and complex as your own. Inspired by a writer who coined the phrase 'Sonder' to define that feeling, Miss America 2008's 'The Sonder Podcast' seeks to uncover as many of those inspiring and incredible unknown life stories as possible. The Sonder Podcast will feature guests, news, culture, politics and more.
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May 25, 2017

Kirsten welcomes famed Christian songwriter/composer Keith Getty, who is responsible for creating some of the most iconic modern hymns heard on the radio today. 

If you love Christian classics such as "In Christ Alone" you will love this interview. 

May 10, 2017

Is it possible to be a model in the fashion industry while trying to follow and honor God? It's one of the most difficult industries, if not the most difficult, to navigate spiritually. That's why Models for Christ was created, to help Christians who want to impact the fashion and modeling world for the better.

Kirsten welcomes international director of Models for Christ, Christina Nearman, to discuss the challenges and obstacles facing believers in a worldly industry.

May 1, 2017

Kirsten welcomes author James Kirchick to speak about his book, The End of Europe: Dictators, Demagogues, and the Coming Dark Age.

Is the Europe as we know it over? James gives a frank discussion on the state of affairs for the troubled region currently dealing with massive issues including the rise of radicalism. 


Apr 24, 2017

Does science disprove the Bible and discredit God? That's a claim more and more skeptics, atheists, and secular scientists have been making in recent months. The March for Science was the latest attempt to politicize an issue that shouldn't really be political at all.

Former Harvard physics instructor and Emmy-winning ABC News Science Editor says that faith is not some outdated way of thinking. Instead, he says, faith is a necessary part of science, Christianity, and any intelligent, comprehensive, coherent worldview -- vastly more powerful than even logic. 

He joins Kirsten for an in-depth discussion about the main points of contention in this battle and discusses what he's found during his lifetime of serious exploration.

Amazing discussion. Listen and learn!

Apr 11, 2017

Author Allison Trowbridge joins the podcast to talk about her new book, "Twenty-Two: Letters to a Young Woman Searching for Meaningwhich seeks to harnesses the power of story in a series of letters to an imagined young woman wrestling with the questions that arise as she stands on the precipice of adulthood.

It's never been a more exciting time to be a young woman, but there is so much pressure today, especially with the rise social media, to figure out how to have everything figured out in life. 

Do you feel like everyone else is just nailing life, and you're a wreck? This is the conversation you need to hear. 


Mar 22, 2017

Kirsten welcomes Faithwire Senior Editor Billy Hallowell to talk about progressive privilege in the media and the data he's charted in his new book that backs up his assertion. The book is Fault Line: How a Seismic Shift in Culture Is Threatening Free Speech and Shaping the Next Generation. 

Mar 20, 2017

Kirsten welcomes a rock star with a unique and impeccable style all his own.

Zoro is not only a world class musician who has toured around the world with some of the biggest musicians in American history, but he's a man of great faith. One of seven siblings and raised by a single mom in Los Angeles, Zoro had a tough childhood in which they moved dozens of times. It's an amazing life story with many layers to it, and Kirsten explores them during this episode.

Zoro now spends most of his time ministering to young men, church leaders and more. He has a lot of wisdom to offer, and shares plenty of sound thinking on faith and life.

Mar 13, 2017

Kirsten welcomes Olivia Caridi, one of the more famous (infamous) contestants from the popular program The Bachelor. 

A former news anchor who was portrayed as a villain by editors, Olivia talks about how that ended up making her the subject of online cyber bullying. Great insight behind the scenes and also an important discussion on a very serious issue that in serious cases can even lead to people taking their own life. 


Mar 6, 2017

Kirsten welcomes one of the women on the frontline battling the issue of body image and eating disorders, Dr. Margaret Nagib. She knew from a very young age she wanted to go into counseling, and now it's become her life mission. 

“Part of God’s destiny for me is to liberate women through the working of His life-changing power and to teach and train professionals to do the same,” she says, while explaining many well-intentioned people make common mistakes. What are the best steps to take when a loved one is struggling with this issue, and what should you absolutely NOT do?

Kirsten and Dr. Nagib cover these topics and much more.





Feb 28, 2017

Very few can go by one name and pull it off. Kirsten welcomes one of the few who can, Emme, who is the first plus sized super model to achieve major success. 

Emme now fights to help women who struggle with body image, and was one of the trail blazers when it came to highlighting the issue. It wasn't always so popular to bring it up, and Emme shares the early difficulties and resistance she received when bringing this to the forefront.

Fascinating conversation with a person who managed to help change the national conversation and perspective on a critical issue. 

Feb 9, 2017

Sheila Weber joins host Kirsten Haglund to talk about the alarming statistics that go along with broken homes - especially children. 

It's a deep dive into one of the most important aspects of life for every family - marriage. 

Struggling in your marriage? Want to get back on track? Take a listen!

Feb 3, 2017

Prayer is an often unspoken challenge many people have when it comes to living out the faith. What to pray, how long to pray, what to say, and so forth. 

This week is the National Prayer Breakfast, and Kirsten welcomes Travis Stewart to discuss a unique project he's started to help people learn how to pray. This project was born out of Travis' own feeling that he didn't know how to pray, and also because of an extremely tragic life event that caused him to question everything.

Fascinating conversation on all things prayer - click to listen!


Jan 12, 2017

Host Kirsten Haglund speaks with Esther Fleece, author of No More Faking Fine, who encourages readers to get gut-level honest with God through the life-giving language of lament. As Fleece says, “Lament is the unexpected pathway to true intimacy with God, and with those around us.”

Esther learned this the hard way, by believing she could shut down painful emotions that haunted her from a broken past she tried to forget on her fast track to success. But in silencing her pain, she robbed herself of the opportunity to be healed. Maybe you’ve done the same. 

An edifying conversation you don't want to miss.

Dec 22, 2016

Kirsten interviews Kelley Markland, whose story went viral after she posted on Facebook about a nasty letter she received in the mail 

The stranger criticized Kelley for her weight and said she shouldn't be wearing spandex leggings. 

Kelley received an outpouring of support from people all around the globe, but the letter wounded her deeply and the whole ordeal has forced her to really rely on her faith during a trying time.

Kelley's faith under fire is a wonderful example for us all, and she shares with Kirsten what she's learned and continues to learn from being under the microscope. 

Dec 14, 2016

Kirsten speaks with the founder of millennial focused website Bold, Carrie Sheffield.

Carrie originally intended the site to be her outlet to be a loud, provocative conservative loudspeaker - but soon realized that's exactly the sort of tone that led the nation into this level of divisiveness. 

Kirsten talks to her about that realization, and also her interesting personal career journey - which includes a transition out of Mormonism. 


Nov 29, 2016

Kirsten speaks with GOP strategist Evan Siegfried, author of GOP GPS: How to Find the Millennials and Urban Voters the Republican Party Needs to Survive.


The GOP has largely dismissed the Millennial generation, but they are one of the most crucial voting demographics for remaining politically viable. So what do they need to do to appeal to younger generations - Evan has the roadmap. 

He also discusses his radical transformation from a New York Liberal to a GOP strategist. Download and listen now!

Nov 2, 2016

According to the polls, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are the two most unpopular Presidential candidates in modern history. Most people are frustrated by the choice, and feel stuck between the lesser of two evils.

There are other options, however. Former CIA operative Evan McMullin has quietly put himself in position to be the first non-major party candidate to win electoral votes in 48 years. 

Kirsten chats with McMullin VP running mate Mindy Finn, who has been labeled 'Donald Trump's worst nightmare' by the media. Finn talks Trump, Faith, and the final straw that caused her to drop everything going on in her life and run for Vice President. 

Oct 28, 2016

On June 30, 2014 The Supreme Court granted a landmark victory for religious liberty in the case of Burwell v. Hobby Lobby. Lauren Green McAfee joins the podcast to discuss the fragile state of religious liberty in America today, and also provides a very candid inside look at what the family was going through as they found themselves embroiled in the middle of a national controversy. 

McAfee is also Dir. of Community Engagement for the Museum of the Bible, and she discusses what we can expect from this incredible 430,000 square foot exhibit when it opens. 



Oct 7, 2016

Megan Alexander joins The Sonder Podcast to talk about her new book 'Faith in the Spotlight' in which the 'Inside Edition' correspondent addresses balancing career and beliefs. 

Sep 30, 2016

Kirsten interviews writer/director of "Little Miss Perfect", a movie that takes a tough look at overachieving high school freshmen who develops an eating disorder.

With her life spiraling out of control, she discovers the only thing she can control is her weight. It's personal for Marlee, who was stunned when she saw websites and blogs that encouraged people to stay thin by purging food. 

Marlee and Kirsten talk about this buzz-worthy film in-depth and also about what it's like trying to direct a major film in Hollywood as a 24-year old woman. 


Sep 19, 2016

The world watching at home on TV thought Miss America 2008 Kirsten Haglund had it all together. Little did they (and even she) know that she was struggling with a devastating eating disorder. Kirsten shares the inspiring story of her journey to redemption.